Thank you Police!!

Posted by seik at 04:02, 27/10/2005

There is a clear and present danger in my mind. This is that I may soon become the most common poster on UKT, a position that I really do not wish to occupy but I do wish to share my opinions with you guys hoping (sometimes in vain) for decent replies. So, to the newsposters I send a message of hope that maybe one day news will resume on the site!

And onto the column...

How many of you have dialled 999? Or 112 as is now available as we move closer to become a European nation. I've dialled 999 three times in my life, the third time was tonight. I can remember when I was young, the whole idea of dialling 999 instantly brought fear to me. Michael Buerk on TV talking about how some bloke was stung 16,546 times by killer bees only to be saved by the quick thinking fireman smoking the bees off with diesel, or the child that knew tp put their dad into the recovery position after he had just fell 192ft from a cliff.

I dialled 112 whilst on holiday in Spain, my family and I were certain my Uncle had fallen into a diabetic coma and could possibly swallow his tongue, we were wrong, he'd had a heart attack. I dialled 999 on the motorway as well, travelling up the M1 at about 100mph we were overtaken by 4 Lotus Elises doing 110mph+ criss-crossing lanes, I was genuinely scared for their and others safety as they criss-crossed lanes. I've personally gone faster on the motorway but their driving was stupdily erratic that I called the police and beat their asses down. And finally tonight, I was in the Subway enjoying my 12 inch Cheese Steak when several dudes decided they wanted to get in despite the Subway people locking the doors and closing up. The Subway people locked us all in until we'd finished our sandwiches so we could all pile out together, outnumbering the nob heads outside. Everyone got out safely but about 5 or 6 t**ts continued to hassle the poor Subway guy and it was getting quite rowdy. I did a precautionary 999 call knowing how quickly these things could change from swearing and threatening to real violence. As the call was finished and I heard the sirens around the corner I felt such a great relief that our emergency services could be relied upon.

Please, share your experiences with the emergency services :)

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darkst0rm
the demonic radicals
16:41 27/10/2005
no thanks [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Del`
Sniper's Alley
17:55 27/10/2005
The only time I've had to call 999 was in a Subway too, my dad collapsed (turned out he had a bad virus). [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
aaa
18:04 27/10/2005
never, northern ireland is safer than ud think [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
siLki
18:27 27/10/2005
snitch [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
w1ckedz
18:39 27/10/2005
p***y, should of battered them down yourself. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
matto
20:28 27/10/2005
YOU'RE MA BOY SEIK [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
c0pe
23:10 27/10/2005
last thurs night outside tbi when a guy was started on by about 6 chavs, few were arrested and they got their in something like 5 minutes [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Az
RemOte.uK
01:01 28/10/2005
once when i was walking up the street, didnt have my keypad lock on.....


....they rang me back, very polite after i answerd the phone "what the f*** do you want" thinkin it was my twin after he kept ringing me. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DarkMage
Virtual Gaming!
04:58 28/10/2005
Once called the police at 7:30, they didn't come till 11:00... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
blackbird
12:08 28/10/2005
i rang the police once and the motherf***ers didnt turn up till 5 hours later...maybe it was my accent? They must of guessed i was black. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
careface
12:09 28/10/2005
Most police are w**kers to be honest. I saw this skinhead the other day with ACAB on this back of his neck. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Jazzy Jebus
Rage
12:13 28/10/2005
Yeh, same (not that I'm black) police didn't come for hours after I phoned them and by that time the f***ers had smashed every car and on the street and set fire to a couple. Good for nothing pigs. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Slider`
eSports.Edge
12:53 28/10/2005
From my personal experience the police cannot be relied on, certainly not for a fast responding emergency anyway. I work part-time in a bar, and have on several times we have had to call for the police. We have a radio connected to other pubs around the area and to a central control station called 'pub watch' and if you get any hassle, you call control and they call the cops. Half the time they dont arrive for about 20minutes, and when some wacko was threatening to glass me for the unforgivable reason of asking him politly if he could lift his drink so i could clean his table, we had to actually dial 999. By this time he was kicking off on other customers, and our good old law enforcement turned up 50minutes later. U know if i wasnt a student, and actually had to pay taxes, i would be seriously wondering where the money does infact go. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
siLki
13:14 28/10/2005
bunch of useless w**kers on a power trip

ayeeeee [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
icewilly
13:28 28/10/2005
probably when my friends mum had stuck a sausage up her asus and it broke half way in and she blacked out, i immediately put down my camcorder and rang the ambulance, they call me a life saver around these parts [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Boldie
13:54 28/10/2005
lol same exp as every1 else police taking hours to turn up, got a m8 who says "when on tv theres a police man been killed in the line of duty, i dont think *his poor family* i think thats 1 less b****** on the streets" tis true bout alot of em tho. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
daveeee
15:08 28/10/2005
Called an ambulance once for a friend who'd passed out from alcohol poisoning and wasn't responding to anything... they never turned up. Same with the police after our house was robbed! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Gilga
19:05 28/10/2005
wow 2 of the reasons for calling sucked. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Krispy
19:53 28/10/2005
had to call them at work as some guy was money laundering, they turned up pretty sharp [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
blackbird
20:45 28/10/2005
post "oink" if u hate the pigs. and two oinks if u hate black pigs haha [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
tiz
23:48 28/10/2005
One fine day walking up the lower W/Well road in sunny North Belfast, A guy I have known for years was walking down the other side of the road. A hear the erratic screeching of car wheels spinning, engine revving, only to be interrupted by a halt. Assessing the car I quickly realised I was in the presence of immediate danger and possible death.

Four balaclava wearing men sat in the car, two of the men jump out of the back of the ford escort wearing combat(army) jackets and balaclava's. Immediatly they had identified their target, as I watched the guy across the road duck his head down and sprint for cover only to fall thanks to the disjointed kerb, I realised the next few seconds of that mans life would be terrifying. How right I was. That was to be the very last time he was to take a breath as the two men shot, what seemed like a lifetime, 8 bullets into his head, throat, and chest.

Retreiving the men analysed and concluded that the guy I know who, just minutes before was walking freely down the road I live on, was dead.

I would have shed a tear if I had'nt of fully recognised the reasoning for the execution. What goes around comes around.

January 26th 1996 - The day I witnessed a termination of one.

Lol Ajay, classic! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
tiz
23:50 28/10/2005
But still come to belfast for holidays lads!, its allot safer these days. The paramilitary death ratio since then is down by over 90%!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tru
00:10 29/10/2005
only in ireland [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
icewilly
01:25 29/10/2005
lol tiz :| im not even gona start about the shizzle thats been happenin down here recently!

p.s strum the itchy bean bag [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
mebR
02:41 29/10/2005
pikeys started trying to dig up our drive, so we told the pikeys we'd called the police and they legged it. Then we actually called the police - gave a description of the pikeys - and then never heard anything from them since (the police that is). Awesome work.

btw, my mum works for the police, the health and safety department. She spends all day telling policemen if they are sitting at their computer desks properly and going on courses to improve her ability to tell policemen theyr sitting badly. That is just one of the things the police waste their money on. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tru
16:20 29/10/2005
should have t**tted them with a shovel, I'd confront anyone on my property, c***s [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ubiquity
18:33 29/10/2005
So you were breaking the law, but thought that someone else breaking the law ought to be called in? Medal mate. f***ing hypocrite [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Divine
18:45 29/10/2005
got no time for the fn police, was mugged about 6 yrs ago, head stamped on in the corner of a cake shop doorway, suede coat nicked etc etc, they ran away, i saw a panda car, flagged em down, head p***ing blood, got in the car, they took details. Woman PC shouted at me as 'i wasnt making sense' go figure b***h - my heads been used as a fn Dance Mat. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
careface
19:53 29/10/2005
cake shops nowadays *shakes head* [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
23:07 29/10/2005
From my personal experience the police cannot be relied on, certainly not for a fast responding emergency anyway. I work part-time in a bar, and have on several times we have had to call for the police. We have a radio connected to other pubs around the area and to a central control station called 'pub watch' and if you get any hassle, you call control and they call the cops. Half the time they dont arrive for about 20minutes, and when some wacko was threatening to glass me for the unforgivable reason of asking him politly if he could lift his drink so i could clean his table, we had to actually dial 999. By this time he was kicking off on other customers, and our good old law enforcement turned up 50minutes later. U know if i wasnt a student, and actually had to pay taxes, i would be seriously wondering where the money does infact go

haha nicko what bar do you work in, is it in bristol? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
enuex
10:43 30/10/2005
"as we move closer to become a European nation"

Sorry to have to break it to you like this, but we are already a European nation, and have been for some time before you were even born yet learnt to think otherwise. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
-m0o.Rob-
13:47 30/10/2005
"wow 2 of the reasons for calling sucked."

i was thinking the same thing... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
seik
16:53 30/10/2005
to the fools who think two of the reasons for calling sucked, i assume you're referring to the two that aren't my uncle having a heart attack. well i'm sorry im not a beefer who can throw his weight around and take the law into my own hands like you two hard nuts. c**ks. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
icewilly
17:51 30/10/2005
ever took a w**k in a dogs eye? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Az
RemOte.uK
22:11 30/10/2005
na but i take it u one in the freezer, ho, ho, ho. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
icewilly
00:08 31/10/2005
yes. i one in the freezer [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Az
RemOte.uK
00:11 31/10/2005
damn.

had one..... but never mind the typo won [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
-m0o.Rob-
01:19 31/10/2005
ho ho ho being called a fool for an opinion based on the fact that the police are generally (and i use the term loosely, 'all' would be more fitting) a bunch of misdiagnosed, psychiatrically unstable bullying b******s, you think the little snotty fagot in nursery who stood guard on the fisher price tractor became a dustbin man?

in my (sadly quite vast) experience of the law (in which none of the cases was i a benefactor of anarchy) their sometimes speedy arrival will only be overshadowed by the fact that you are greeted with a complete set of bigoted c***s. Which in over half the cases, werent even meant to involve you whatsoever since you have no idea why they are harassing you, so you have to thank some fresher uni p***y for dialling 999 like his bladder may have exploded because someone wanted a subway. Nobody is attempting to be a hardnut, but in your case, mr seik the pacifist, the next time you fear for the safety of people driving cars at 110 on a motorway, why dont you slow down to the f***ing speed limit before finding it necesary to include the authorities on the adventure,

in conclusion, f*** you. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
02:09 31/10/2005
Rob doesn't eat enough fruit [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
seik
10:27 31/10/2005
dude, issues. the reason for calling the police on the motorway was not because they were doing 110, but because they'd just cut up about 8 people in about 2 seconds, flying from the outside lane to the inside lane in half a second, can you actually drive? or do i need to explain why this is dangerous?

and yeah the t**t who was being a c**k threatening to beat up the subway guy who doesnt go to work to get threatened, he goes to work to earn a crust, has me to thank for spending the night inside, hopefully he'll think about it more next time, if not more fool him. if i can control myself when im drunk i dont see why that c*** cant.

in conclusion, HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
blackbird
11:18 31/10/2005
in conclusion f*** you both as your both p***ys [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
daveeee
13:01 31/10/2005
It's easy to act tough when there's a computer screen in front of you rather than a drunk who's threatening to cause some damage... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
w1ckedz
13:50 31/10/2005
"he goes to work to earn a crust" thats why he works in Subway! hohoho [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Seaweed
16:50 31/10/2005
I just rang the police on you for making such a s*** column let ukt die peacefully. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tru
22:51 31/10/2005
I think you were right to phone about the c***s outside of subway, too many times do I read of a take away/fast food worker/owner being attacked and most of the time killed in similar cases as this - anyone that doesn't believe me then start reading the BBC website, there's normally a new incident every week [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Asriel
19:31 1/11/2005
die die die [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Highlander
23:36 1/11/2005
Travelling at 100mph is just as if not equally as dangerous as travelling at 200 and criss crossing, are you f***ing stupid ? 1 blowout at that speed and ur f***ed, as is any poor c*** next to you when it happens.

As it is making a "cautionary 999 call" is equally as thick as you might be using resources for someone who actually needs to get through at that time.

Get a f***ing grip u nobhead [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Highlander
23:41 1/11/2005
200 = 110 cba to edit [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ct-R
00:56 2/11/2005
Hardcore Highlander [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
seik
04:14 2/11/2005
travelling at 100mph is just as dangerous as travelling at 110mph, thats where the truth in your argument ends. as soon as you started blindly switching lanes you're in a whole new ball park, learn how to drive you crazy dutch b******.

i fail to see how a guy outnumbered by 5 or 6 being threatened to be beat up does not merit being someone who might "need" the police... clarify your argument on this one please and perhaps a meaningful discussion could arise [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
blackbird
16:27 2/11/2005
seik, judging from your other column and this one i have come to the conclusion that you my friend are a emotionally disturbed gay p***Y WHO NEEDS TO RING 999 as it gives p***ys like u reassurance so f*** U [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
sly
16:29 2/11/2005
blackbird you are a t**t [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Liam
conneXion
21:26 2/11/2005
^ concur [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
blackbird
15:48 3/11/2005
couldnt agree more, but as i do so f*** YOU AND YOUR MOTHER f***ING BUM BOY TO! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
-m0o.Rob-
23:05 3/11/2005
shuttup blackbird you fagot [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
cRueL^
Alliance.cs
06:52 5/11/2005
I rung the police when me and a group of friends got jumped by dirty pakis! Was quite thrilling! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
johnson
12:55 5/11/2005
i once had the police called on me and my freinds because we bottled a gang of chavs outside a club 'cos they where just generally being chavs, mouthing of and one of them chucked a rather large (and heavy) chunk of metal from somewhere at a young girl talking to one of the bouncers. Call it justified if im honest, they deserved what they got. The police were too late turning up though, and by the time they did the chavs had gone and so had me and freinds.

Another time my dad had to call the police because some henry lloyd baghead was throwing abuse at our next door neighbourrs (who are forreign, french) They where renting the house and this chav c*** thought it would be funny to round up a load of his mates and shout *frog dikheads* and *f***in kill you f***in dikheads f***in, f***in french dikheads* and other extremely harmful chav comments before repeatedly throwing things at the windows. The police said the incident call was "High Priority" and theyd send someone straight away but they took over an hour and it was too late because they chavs had set the car alight and bailed over the feilds at the end of my road.

meh, this country is just over run with pikey scumbags. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
blackbird
13:48 5/11/2005
johnson for the second incident why didnt you round up your "chums" and go pwn the chavs cs style?.. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
johnson
19:52 5/11/2005
dont talk wet you little bedroom warrior, harehills rough or what use your head probably get knifed for interfeering. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
immuNe18
22:47 5/11/2005
rang twice once when i was liek 5 and my neighbours alarm was going off but the police woman told me off :( and second time at my old house when a asian guy broke thru our window f***ed on coke with a stick with a nail in it and my mum hammered him with a cactus then the police came and CS gas aha [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
c0pe
11:02 10/11/2005
were you using your no sprites at the same time solmune [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
HooV
13:36 11/11/2005
In my, sadly, many years of life, I've met several coppers, some of whom are friends to this day:

Copper 1 = an old school friend, who has turned into the most racist bigot you'll ever come across

Copper 2 - let me off a speeding fine, as he got an eyeful of my mate's girlfriend's body in the passenger seat (he stood by her window for almost a minute, blatantly staring down her top & at her mini-skirted legs)

Copper 3 = a traffic copper - egotistical, power-mad w**ker

Copper 4 = a good mate, who now works for CID and has put some serious nasties behind bars (still, has become noticably racist since joining the London Met.)

Copper 5 = another buddy, who seems to have gone into the police for the right reasons - time will tell if it affects him for the wrong reasons...

:(


Only ever called 999 once and for the life of me, I can't remember why... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
johnson
00:06 13/11/2005
tbh even rosa parks would become racist working in brittish CID. country is full of nigger 50 cent wannabe knife weilding hooligans. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
c0pe
00:50 13/11/2005
the police are useless!!

my bike recently got stolen from some dirt ridden chav while it was locked up at the bike sheds at asda, was there for around 20 minutes filling in forms and then they just left to purpose other activities, looks like people cna just steal things in broad daylight these days with cctv!

bye bye specialised hardrock :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kelleh
10:45 15/11/2005
"I did a precautionary 999 call knowing how quickly these things could change from swearing and threatening to real violence."

you probably got them nicked for no reason other than you were a little scared :(

that's a bit harsh [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
seik
16:48 15/11/2005
its actually illegal to threaten someone [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dannyg
17:13 17/11/2005
depends if ur slapping ur c**k in there face at the same time

ur just annoyed u got taken at 100mph really [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
johnson
17:25 17/11/2005
its not "illegal" as there isnt a law against verbal abuse, unless racist i think, but you can be arrested or moved on for being drunk and disorderly. You can also be moved on and/or arrested for making threats. My cousin is a hardcore chav, he knows his rights inside out :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
returnofblackbird
20:04 17/11/2005
only your cousin? You sure you dont mean your entire family u white p***y [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
seik
10:12 18/11/2005
johnson, firstly i shall quote myself:

"its actually illegal to threaten someone"

now i shall quote you:

"its not "illegal"" and "You can also be...arrested for making threats"

threatening someone is illegal, you said it yourself

threaten:

1. To express or use threats.
2. To indicate danger or harm. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
[N]ight[F]ox
02:18 20/11/2005
Riiight, now this is one of the few things i hate about this country, everyone in this country thinks they are the best god damn thing that walks this earth when really 90% of you guys are sitting in your room at 3am in the morning dreaming of a life yo dont have acting all hard on the internet because you have no real life!. and yes i am up at 2am and i have a good reason to be, its called a job.. anyway on to the police.

1) When i was younger i had to call (at that time 911 being in the usa) because the house down the road was bursting with flames.

2) I have had the police called on me when i nearly killed an old friend of mine..all because he threw a penny at me

3)Called police when about 15 british t**ts decided to all gang up on a woman to mug her for her purse. Police took there good old time..even though the town i live in is tiny. Has a police station and a high street..thats about it.

anyway i will agree with others, you were doing 100 they were doing what.. 110? not only were you speeding but also you called the police..you were driving at 100mph and you decide to use your phone? i will say this as nicly as i can..f***in idiot. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kelleh
16:08 20/11/2005
[n]ight[f]ox you make me happy inside

the life i dream of is one where i have massive wings on my back and tentacles coming out of my rectum [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
seik
22:29 20/11/2005
"...I dialled 999 on the motorway as well, travelling up the M1 at about 100mph we were overtaken by 4 Lotus Elises doing 110mph+ criss-crossing lanes..."

i wasn't driving, fool [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
returnofblackbird
12:05 21/11/2005
i realised after the first part night fox that u my son are a f***ing idiot who would want to move from the warm sunny wubbley jubbley states to the f***ing uk wheres its full of f***ing chavs and its s*** cold? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TM53
23:34 21/11/2005
Seik, I thought you were an atheist.
If you are, your 'Thank you police" bit makes no sense. You should recognize the seriously anti-evolutionary effect that people like police and hospitals are having. They merely protect the weaker members of our species and help them to multiply, while not helping the stronger members of our species. At times police even suppress the stronger members of our species, and prevent them from breeding freely. This is leading our species into an evolutionary backwater. Anything like the police, that tries to protect the weak/helpless, and thus reverse evolution, should be condemned.

If the thugs on the subway were stronger & more suitable for survival than than you, it's perfectly good that they kill you off in order to maximize their breeding potential and prevent you spreading your weaker genes. Come on, get with the program.

And I'm surprised that you tried to save your uncle. By keeping him alive he could breed, and pass on his heart weakness to a further generation. This is profoundly damaging to the evolutionary process. If you felt sentimental reasons for wanting to save him, you should know this is just an illusion which weakens our species. Atheists know that humans are the accidental, purposeless product of matter colliding with matter, so the ideas of "love", "personal identity" or "value" or "moral good" are simply bogus. If they can't be produced by matter, they can't exist.

Our chemical composition is worth about 32 dollars, and thats the value of your uncle. If he is weak, and using up resources that could be used by a stronger member of the species, it's better that his chemical composition become fertilizer.

Be consistent with atheism and stop assuming things that don't make sense within an atheist paradigm. Then you'd stop making moral assertions and your posts would make more sense. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
returnofblackbird
11:00 22/11/2005
And I'm surprised that you tried to save your uncle. By keeping him alive he could breed, and pass on his heart weakness to a further generation.
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he already did...*drum rolls* *welcomes seik* the weak generation... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
RoMeRz
13:36 22/11/2005
f***ing grass [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mango
00:56 24/11/2005
TM53: That's an awful, awful post. The lack of any shred of humanitarianism in your statement astounds me. Anyone wh bothers to think has probably experimented with the paticular paradigm that you profess, however, I didn't actually think that anyone aside from the most reptilian and callous people would actually foster the belief and believe in its validity.

Reducing humanity down to sheer scientific value; holding no stead in emotions and the denial of the human condition are the worst of intellectual crimes. The fact that you condone the murder of any individual by a physically stronger party disgusts me intensely. Your belief that the stongest of our numbers have the natural right to behave as they choose, without any regard for integrity of intent or other such moral and ethical concerns is highly dubious. There're many situations where these concerns are applicable, refuting your belief that morality and ethical concerns are archaic ideas and thus useless, incompatible and impede the evolution of man. One paticular example would be the rape and explotation of the earth and our natural resources.

Atheism and humanitarianism are not mutually exclusive. I wonder if you were stabbed during a mugging, lying there bleeding to death on the pavement, whether or not you would be thinking, "This is fair, this is natural I am perfectly willing to accept this and, not only that, this is profoundly good for humanity".

"Science is but a perversion of itself unless it has, as its ultimate goal the betterment of humanity." Nikola Tesla -1919 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Del`
Sniper's Alley
23:34 24/11/2005
Great post Mango, but I think it's wasted on the intended target.

Hitler Youth like him can't read sentences with more than one subclause without a brain aneurysm.

It's always funny how crackpot views like that come crashing down the moment something affects them or their family. Though I suspect it's actually just some sort of trolling attempt, probably Johnson registered under a different name because he couldn't take getting owned so hard by seik in the earlier post. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mango
07:39 25/11/2005
Perhaps that is so, Del. I do believe the guy to be somewhat intelligent and has an effective grasp on the foundational tenets of his version of atheism. I would like to believe that he has constructed the paradigm from the fruits of his intellectual labours - which shows that he can extrapolate and consider the physical ramifications of an implemented belief system - rather than merely parroting the views and ideals expounded in the material in which he, supposedly, has immersed himself within.

What I cannot accept, however, is the sheer lack of humanity displayed within the paticulars of the post, which seem - to me at least - as sub-par attempts at the justification and validation of that paticular brand of stratification; namely that might makes right.

I'm an idealist at heart, and while the implementation of ideals (such as I see them) into society at large are at best difficult, and at worst, completely impracticle and obsolete (in his view, probably), this is no excuse to completely disregard the humanist point of view.

In essence, he and I are at opposite ends of the spectrum; I relish the mystical and metaphysical, he is enveloped in the entirely physical world of the "matter". I do believe there can be some middle ground, and (in the macro sense) I would be willing to concede the transcendental - no matter how personally and psychologically painful that would be for me - if only there were a more humanistic approach to the stratification of humanity.

In some ways I'm greatful to him for being so honest with his views, as it promted me to be so with mine. In this great divide we can forge some kind consolation or compromise between our respective view points - if only he would continue his dialogue and accept debate.

I would be willing to accept his views as my own, if only he would debate the subject with me and - through as such - convince me of his arguments. I would like to believe that I could cut through the vitriol and rhetoric of his, and my own, arguments, to derive the truth of the matter. This, however, is also an idealistic argument because I'm not perfect (nor would claim to be) and I do know that I can be swayed with an effective and pursuasively worded diatribe against the beliefs that I hold dear - I am human after all. Though admittedly it would have to be one hell of a argument.

*Please note that the above (in both cases) are the ramblings of a drunken clot and are, as such, liable to the flawed exposition of my paticular paradigm and, conversely, could also indicate the poorly considered foundational tenets of a belief system.

*Also note that I'm an idiot, as past evidence has shown. (this you'll just have to take my word for ;-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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